Bands: Mind Your Manners, or Else!

March 14, 2013{ 12 Comments }

shutterstock 106918655 Bands: Mind Your Manners, or Else!A cautionary tale for the discourteous

As a DIY artist, you have to make and maintain contact with lots of folks: bookers, agents, recording engineers, managers, bands, DJs, program directors, journalists, bloggers, designers, producers, fans, and many more.

And even when you don’t get the desired result, it’s important to remember something you probably learned when you were two years old: BE POLITE!

What happens if you’re rude? You don’t get hired back, or worse — your band gets black-listed from clubs in LA, and is written about in SPIN Magazine for all the wrong reasons.

According to this article from SPIN, an Arizona music journalist exacted her revenge after being called an “uptight %#@%” by an independent band.

(Cue person with noir-ish accent standing in a darkly-lit doorway screaming “You’ll never work in this town again!”)

Read the full exchange HERE, and make sure you don’t find yourself in a similar situation.

It’s simple, really: when you’re dealing with  other folks in the music industry — be nice or be quiet. Don’t be rude.

What’s the worst insult you’ve been dealt in your music career? Has your band been guilty of boorishness? Tell us all the juicy details in the comments section below.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/tommydarker Tommy Darker

    I have the opposite experience. My band got recently a poi-so-nous review. Our piano production got characterized as ‘broken toy keys’ and our music ‘blends in the other mediocre shit out there’.

    We got quite a few passionate fans, so I did two things:

    1. Published the review in our social media profiles, so I can check out the reaction. No empathy, just a link and the quote ‘we received a really bad review today. What do you think?’

    Lots of encouragement from our fans, which made me happy. The most heartmelting fans got to the page and reacted to the review, suggesting that the reviewer is clueless and didn’t really do a research about the band.

    2. Sent a kind email to the reviewer, thanking him for expressing his real emotions about something he had never heard before, suggesting that things like that could only make us stronger. At least the majority either loves or hates our music – they are not indifferent. That’s good.

    The result? He thanked me for the gracious email and asked me to send him more stuff when we’d have something else to publish – ‘I think I’ll see it differently this time’, he suggested.

    And he did – he published our music video to his audience a few days after it got released!

    # Being a human can never hurt – that’s for sure. #

    • http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/author-chris-robley Christopher Robley

      Nicely done. Way to turn that whole thing around to your benefit. Thanks for sharing.

      Oh, and “broken toy keys” sounds interesting to me.

      @ChrisRobley

  • http://twitter.com/AaronGTV AaronGTV

    thank you for this ;) i agree 100% B)>+

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=729810319 Bret L. Thompson

    I don’t totally agree with this. I am a personally a total pushover truth be told, but having a reputation as a pushover is just as nuts as having a rep as a creepy diva. Bottom line is that if you don’t sell records and bring fans, it is sort of wide open for anything and everything, right?

    At the end of the day being yourself and being as talented as you can doesn’t seem such a moronic idea.

    • http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/author-chris-robley Christopher Robley

      Well, I think there’s a difference between being polite and being a pushover. You can be polite and still be assertive. I’m not suggesting anyone eat crap, just that you don’t have to go out of your way to be rude like the band in this example.

      @ChrisRobley

  • http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/author-chris-robley Christopher Robley

    I don’t think bands should have to roll over and take anything; I just don’t think it’s wise to go out of your way to be a jerk like the band in the article.

    @ChrisRobley

  • http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/author-chris-robley Christopher Robley

    That’s a crap rule anyway. Way to make a scene. I definitely don’t consider what y’all did rude.

    @ChrisRobley

  • Duck

    Oh yeah this is true. Our guitarist is , well he’s kind of a hothead, really nice guy if he knows you, and a god damn wizard on the guitar, but has a really bad habit of assuming the worst about people. End result is, half the promoters won’t hire us because he’s gotten into screaming matches, and in one case a physical fight with a promoter (granted said promoter decided to keep the door fee and stiff 4 bands out of their fee, so our guitarist jumped him and liberated the door fee, a good $2K owed to us.). In a few cases I’ve been able to smooth things over , but theres more than a few that have said to me “Get a new guitarist and we’ll talk, J*** is a good musician but a total c****”.

    And this has missed us at least one international tour support too. (

  • http://www.facebook.com/clare.cooper.9465 Clare Cooper

    My band recently lost a long-standing gig when the club cut back on the nights it had live music. Of course we were upset, but our bandleader called the owner and thanked him, telling him how much we appreciated having had such a long run. His answer was, “don’t worry, we’ll have you back,” and we’re already booked for another date. There’s nothing to be gained from being negative except a burned bridge.

  • http://twitter.com/squeakyclean321 Squeaky Clean Band

    Back in the 1980s, we wrote very serious, deep songs that seemed very important at the time. However, our keyboard player wrote a song called “Big Big Girl” with lines like: “she dance big reggae/she dance big ska/she’s the biggest girl in North America” which had to be part of the show (you know how important keyboard players were in the ’80s).

    We did a gig at CBGBs and back then Hilly actually used to make a point of catching at least part of a band’s show. Wouldn’t you know “Big Big Girl” was the song he heard. When we spoke to Louise about a return engagement, she related that Hilly’s notes that said he wasn’t sure if the band was supposed to be some kind of joke. Good thing I was nice to Louise and she was willing to give us another shot!

    Glenn
    SQUEAKY CLEAN
    nyc

  • Freddie Long

    “There’s no such thing as bad publicity” – P.T. Barnum

    “The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.” -Oscar Wilde

    In my early days of playing, a booker whom I had sent a promo kit just flat out told me that I would never make it in the music business. She said my promo kit looked great but she didn’t think the music showed any promise. It was my first self-produced recording and I’ll openly admit that the EP I had sent her was definitely a “humble beginning,” but why discourage someone and tell them they don’t have a chance? I thanked her for her honesty, had a pity party for a minute or two, took it on the chin and then went on to call the next booker on my list.

    Fast-forward about ten years: Since that phone call I have had the great fortune to share stages with a bunch of national acts, have music in a well-known video game, play in large festivals and venues, along with countless other really awesome music opportunities, all while being lucky enough to call music my full-time job for almost a decade. Whether you’re a plumber, a stock-broker, an athlete, a salesman, or a musician, it all takes time to grow and develop. Rather than becoming defensive or confrontational when rejection rears its ugly head (and it will do a lot of rearing), I think it says much more to just be cool, keep plugging away, and then let your accomplishments speak for themselves.

    Being courteous and professional also really goes a long way. I’ve had bookers tell me that even if I suddenly started singing like a strangled donkey they’d still hire me because I was easy to work with and they just liked “me.” The saying is that “business isn’t personal” but I feel the complete opposite: Business IS ALWAYS personal. A human being working and interacting with another human being.

    Don’t be discouraged, be strong and keep the faith, my friends!!!

    -Freddie Long

    http://freddielong.com
    http://facebook.com/freddielong
    http://twitter.com/freddielong

  • http://www.facebook.com/thecincinnatisinatra Matt Snow

    It is possible to be kind without being weak, firm without being harsh, and strong without being a bully. The Golden Rule goes a long way in human relations: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. A nice thought for this Holy Season, no? After 42 years of doing live shows, I’ve seen incredible rudeness, and tremendous kindness, and I just think people may not remember how you made them think, or how you made them act, but they will always remember how you made them feel, and after all, as entertainers, isn’t that what it’s all about?